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I wholeheartedly concur. In fact, every translation is different and brings a piece of the translator to the table. Keep up the good work.

Tom -   大肚腩

And some translations are more trustworthy than others.

Tom -   大肚腩

P.S. and as I mentioned in your other posts on the Sins of Sina, SCMP got to the story (front page Sunday edition) before Roland, so to sugget that Roland's translation brought it to the English-language world displays a seriously flawed timeline.

lfc

大肚腩, points taken.

In fact when I wrote this post, I did actually note that the Sina story was featured on SCMP's homepage. Timeline:-

Feb 10: LfC
Feb 11: SCMP
Feb 12: ESWN

Is it accurate to say that "it is ESWN ... which bring[s] the story to the English-speaking world"? Yes and no.

In a sense the assertion must be flawed because it was LfC which first translated the open letter. Alas, the leverage of this blog is so minimal.

SCMP, I believe, has a similar problem. Not that SCMP itself is as hopelessly irrelevant as LfC, but that SCMP is a gross failure on the web. It requires subscription; its articles cannot be linked to; nor can they be googled! How many subscribers does SCMP have?

ESWN is open to all and linkable. Rebecca MacKinnon apparently picked up the protest from Mr Soong. So did the Time Blog. Boing Boing then stepped in. They invariably point to ESWN’s translation and comment. I therefore fail to see why a correction is necessary.

Tom -   大肚腩

The fact that Rebecca McKinnon points to Roland is a matter of friendship, not necessarily one of being the driver of media. Boing Boing followed Rebecca, and if she didn't point to Roland and SCMP had been free to all, then it would be a much different story. (and it seems rumours are surfacing of SCMP going in this direction).

And it could easily be that your original post prompted SCMP to do the follow up work and actually interview the lawyers. Don't discount such matters as people notice, even if you don't get links from ESWN.

But to suggest that Roland brought it to the English-language press is false as the English-language press had it before Roland. (and my guess is that Roland actually picked it up from the English-language press since it was a front-page article on Sunday, so any press critic would have noticed it on a pile of papers without even having to flip through the paper.)

eswn

Let's state for the public record just what happened in this case (and I usually do not disclose how these things work at all). The following is my recollection of the Skype chat session:

Rebecca MacKinnon pointed ESWN to the open letter from the lawyer-bloggers. She asked: "Are you translating this?"

ESWN replied: "I was not going to do this because this is a hopeless chase. Nothing is going to happen unless the Sina.com celebrity bloggers join in and they won't. However, if you believe that this is important, I will get it translated."

Rebecca MacKinnon: "Great! It'll save me some time."

The rest is history. This is about mutual support/division of labor among bloggers who appreciate the value of each other, as opposed to a blogger launching personal attacks on other bloggers without having any idea about what was going on.

As for the SCMP bit, the ESWN philosophy is always this -- SCMP can only describe, quote or paraphrase a certain primary document. Wouldn't you rather read the thing in full in all its glorious details? Why should you accept someone's synopsis when you can read the whole thing?

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